13
Nov
07

Dinner with Tibetologists from Tibet

I was lucky enough to go to a dinner with some Tibetan Tibetalogists so I figured I should post my experience here to share with you guys.

Sorry If this is unorganized but I’m just going write anything that I can remember from the dinner:

So I had dinner with the Tibetan Tibetologists and An Caidan (Profesor and Curator of China Tibetology website) with Secretary of State Jason Kenney and his Chief of staff Tenzin Dargyal Khangsar, who some of you might remember from the Tibetan University Student Conference.
So there was 3 Tibetan Tibetologists: a Professor for Religious studies and Social sciences Tsering Gyalpo, a scholar on Tibetan medicine, and then a Lama from Labrang Commemorate Monastery.

The only member of the Tibetologists who would talk about political issues was An Caidan. The other Tibetans were all really quiet during the dinner and at one point Tenzin asked them how they felt towards the Dalai Lama. There was a long moment of silence and all of the Tibetan Tibetologist looked really uncomfortable and some completely looked away. Eventually the only person who answered was An Caidan and he said something along the lines of the Dalai Lama is separatist, etc….

Also I should note that there was two Chinese Embassy officials at the dinner as well. Strangely one was actually a Tibetan from Tibet too, the other was a guy who was like number two or three in terms of power at the Chinese embassy. Also when the Tibetan embassy official was asked if he went to see the Dalai Lama he said no and then I believe he was asked if he wanted to or something like this, which made him uncomfortable like the others.

We actually thought that all the Tibetologist were Tibetan so we thought even An Caidan was Tibetan (He could also speak Tibetan), but we figured out later on he was Han Chinese.

I didn’t like An Caidan at all, he is basically what most Tibetans would stereotype Chinese government officials to be like: stubborn, uncompromising, tries to create the perception that Tibetans basically culturally/linguistically Chinese or some sort of offshoot of Chinese instead of just a unique different people.

Overall though I think it was a really valuable experience for me though, but somewhat disheartening because I hope the majority of Chinese officials are not like him.

Also during the dinner he had the audacity to try and suggest that the Chinese government sources are the truest forms of information you can use to inform yourself on the Tibet situation since he commented to Mr. Kenney that he should stop listening to the lies (from western sources) and find the real truth (from China), since he claimed that they know best about the situation. But Mr. Kenney replied to the lines of something like “Forgive me if I’m somewhat skeptical about information from a government who claims the events of 1989 to be only a minor disturbance”. Its too bad everyone thought he was Tibetan because I think everyone was a little more restrained because of that.

Mr. Caidan also tried to suggest that he knew what the real feelings of the Tibetans in Tibet were and basically he tried to group himself with them. Of course we thought he was Tibetan when he said this so nothing was said.

There was also some false historical things he said about the Tibet Chinese relations that he was saying but I didn’t want to interrupt in between the discussion with him and Tenzin Dargyal and Mr. Kenney. He said something about how there was a structure in Lhasa that had something written on it which showed praise towards the Chinese Emperor, thus showing Tibet’s status under China during those historical times. But I’ve heard that its actually in reference to the Tibetan King/Emperor Songsten Gampo and not the Chinese Emperor. The Chinese government only interprets it to mean the Chinese Emperor.

Also when Tenzin Khangsar tried numerous times to promote that Tibetans in exile and Tibetans in Tibet should work together to try and better themselves in areas where they both are facing similar problems like education, etc… An Caidan was completely opposed, he basically made up excuses for every situation as to why this should not happen and tried to differentiate Tibetans in Tibet and those in exile as completely different.

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8 Responses to “Dinner with Tibetologists from Tibet”


  1. 1 Anonymous
    November 13, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    I don’t know, but it seems from a search of the web that the main academic accomplishment of that An Caidan is writing a travel guide to Tibet with the corrected politics the authorities insist upon.

    There’s more on their tour to win the hearts and minds of the foreign academy here, at an official PRC website:

    http://en.tibet.cn/news/tin/t20071104_286224.htm

    I think it’s interesting they’re using not only a monk, but a Rinpoché.

  2. 2 Jigme32
    November 13, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    Yea I was surprised to see a Rinpoche with them as well. You know its strange how the Chinese always refer to Rinpoches as “Living Buddhas”. Even at the dinner the head Chinese embassy official introduced the Lama as “the living buddha”.

    It found out from the book “Freedom in Exile” (autobiography of the Dalai Lama) that this Chinese translation of Lamas as “living Buddhas” is in fact a mistranslation from Tibetan to Chinese.

  3. 3 tsering
    November 15, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    did you see the screen, its in chinese (from above website). its probably only chinese audience if there is one.

  4. 4 Sitting Bull
    November 19, 2007 at 10:50 am

    These attempts by Chinese to win the so called “hearts and minds” of foreign academy is all a waste of time. I laugh at the fact that they think they can fool them with Rinpoche’s as they PR guy. It is all too obvious to the eyes of the foreigners that they are bullshitting.

    Mr.Jigme la, can tell us how many people attended the “show” and what was the overall reaction of them. And what was your initial reaction, and the audience’s reaction. Were there any protest outside? (to show that they don’t represent Tibet) and finally thank you for giving us an update on the Chinese propagandas.

  5. 5 Jigme32
    November 19, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    It was a very small event so it was basically the people I mentioned. So around 10-12 people.

  6. 6 Tibetan Vanguard
    November 20, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    “China Tibetologists & Rinpoche delegation visits Canada”

    That’s what the title of the aforementioned website reads. The Chinese are trying hard to stress the presence of the Rinpoche on the article; even the first picture on the page is of him making a speech.

    I say they’d have to do more than that to convince people. My suspicion is that they probably have the poor Rinpoche blackmailed.

  7. 7 Tenzin
    November 22, 2007 at 8:54 am

    Most likely yes, they probably got the Rinpoche’s family under house arrest or something.

    One thing I don’t understand why they would make a fool out of themselves with such events. Do they seriously think the world is ignorant, or illiterate about world’s history? Something doesn’t not smell right. I know they are smart enough to know this, so the question is WHY are they still doing it? Maybe they believe patience will reward them in the end? Why do you think so guys?

  8. 8 Anonymous
    November 23, 2007 at 8:48 am

    If you have some time and patience, try reading through this leaked document from back in 2000.
    http://tinyurl.com/2coj48
    It sheds some light on the issue. But as I remember the plan to influence foreign academics is a much older one, involving a 15-year plan whose time is already up. They’re quite willing to accept incremental success. Under optimal conditions brainwashing takes 6 months. Under ordinary conditions perhaps decades. As far as Tibetans are concerned, they’re still living in the time of the so-called Cultural Revolution, with re-education campaigns, intimidation, etc. No need to imprison relatives.


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